Listen now | Always Rebels at heart, Ben and Tao finally join the Alliance, drop some sweet lightsaber sweeps, get feely with the Force and kick some Empire ass while reviving the Fallen Jedi Order in Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order, colon included. Ben alienates Star Wars fans with a hybrid cow-horse metaphor mashup and a broad critique of recent incarnations of the franchise; Tao settles into his psychology sofa to talk trauma’s role in the storyline and the Dark Side more generally, and the pair discuss how this Souls-like Star Wars experience compares to the original FromSoftware formats.